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| From | Message | Posted by wschmidt www6conf.org
4/13/2007 13:15:16 Play online chess | Subject: A nomenclature question...
Message: Chess players who play face-to-face are called "OTB" players. Players who exchange letters or postcards are "postal" or "correspondence" players. My question is whether the word "correspondence" is sufficiently broad enough to cover e-mail-based and server-based play. Or is there another term that would better encompass postal, e-mail, and server play?
Craig and Ion, this seems like a question designed for the two of you. Anyone else care to take a shot?
| Posted by ganstaman www6conf.org
4/13/2007 13:21:53 Play online chess |
Message: Well, these terms were not designed for the Internet, but I think there's a simple rule that allows them to apply:
If both players are at the board at one time making moves, then it's OTB.
If only one player is at the board, makes a move, and then waits for his opponent, it's correspondence.
Yes, I realize you could make OTB play look like CC and vice versa this way, but this isn't a formal definition. In my view, email and server based play are both correspondence.
| Posted by ionadowman www6conf.org
4/13/2007 15:26:10 Play online chess | Where things go a bit runny...
Message: ... is that on-line play can have at times the immediacy of OTB play (and I'm not talking solely about the Blitz feature), yet probably most of the time, it would be just like correspondence. There have been occasions when I have been on-line at the same time as my opponent and we have played several moves of a game before one or other of us signs off; but of course, in tricky situations, no doubt we will transfer the game to a chessboard to examine more closely, or refer to a book or database for information in an opening or ending (or middlegame in a general sort of way).
On the whole, I would be inclined to a distinctive nomenclature for on-line chess, to wit: "On-line Chess". OLC for short.
What do you reckon?
Cheers,
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Posted by tag1153 www6conf.org
4/13/2007 15:45:11 Play online chess | How about.....
Message: GameKnot's Internet Master Play Service. Then we would all be G.I.M.P.S.
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Posted by ccmcacollister www6conf.org
4/14/2007 03:01:17 Play online chess | Hi Walt ...
Message: APCT used to call their onlineplay, on Leisure Link (later to become USA Today Sports Center) "Electro" Chess. Actually I think it may have been "Elecktro". I think that term should now be open for use if APCT is gone ... (which I am not sure of, but what I have read seems to indicate it ... can anyone confirm or deny?)
I believe many sites are using "Turn-based" to describe online play of a corr type format.
What do you like? This may be your chance for Chessic immortality, my friend (or even more rather, since you started the Coaches Club already!) Or whoever does name it. I have said simply ONLINE but that might describe OTB like online as well. I like Electro a lot :)
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Posted by ccmcacollister www6conf.org
4/14/2007 03:02:10 Play online chess | OR there could be the simple
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Posted by ccmcacollister www6conf.org
4/14/2007 11:22:21 Play online chess | And STILL I missed the real Question...
Message: "My question is whether the word "correspondence" is sufficiently broad enough to cover e-mail-based and server-based play. Or is there another term that would better encompass postal, e-mail, and server play? "
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Oh ok ... I'd say YES!? :) imo
At least I use Corr to denote Postal + Turnbased + e-mail ... tho not for online blitz or 'live' online play.
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Posted by ionadowman www6conf.org
4/14/2007 14:28:05 Play online chess | G.E.N.I.U.S.
Message: "General Electronic National and International Userplay Service"... Of course, such would cover all kinds of on-line play.
But I do like that GIMPS gag...
I still like "Online Chess", mainly owing to its specificity. We know what we are talking about then. It probably is more akin to CC than OTB, but there are differences sufficient to make it a distinct ... genre, shall we say?
Cheers,
Ion
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