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Posted by judge_hogan
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5/01/2008
11:14:24

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Subject: Rating of a GM

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Just curious, what sort of Gameknot rating would a GM have?

Posted by ccmcacollister
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5/01/2008
14:58:10

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judge_hogan ...

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There is no doubt, it would be: 1200

Posted by doctor_knight
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5/02/2008
00:45:30

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hahaha

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good one. No matter if someone is a GM or not, they always start with 1200.

I think he really means, "If given time to establish a consistent rating on Gameknot, what would that rating be for a GM?"
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On Chess: Game wading into waves of change — Like so much in contemporary life, chess - like an onrushing river - is characterized by constant change. Bobby Fischer had the equivalent of a dozen or more doctorates in chess. He studied and assimilated - like no one else before him - what seemed at the time to be a massive classical chess heritage. Grandmasters today have access to a minimum database of more than 4 million games, far eclipsing the chess legacy that Fischer inherited - and that database is increasing at an accelerating rate. Setting up the pieces, playing through a game or games and reviewing relevant positions are painfully time-consuming. Fortunately, chess software and the computer screen speed ...
Posted by fmgaijin
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5/02/2008
01:32:17

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Depends on the GM!!

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1. Depends on whether the GM is FIDE or ICCF--some FIDE GM's (e.g. Ulf Anderssen) are excellent correspondence chessplayers, but others aren't.
2. Within those ranks, there is also a wide disparity of age, skill, etc.--some GM's are old and/or out of practice or were marginal to begin with while others are killers.
3. As many times noted in these pages, every Elo rating system is CLOSED and ratings are therefore relative only to the group of players within it. Hence, one cannot project a rating for an "outsider" except by their relative ability to some players WITHIN the group who also play in an OUTSIDE group
4. Therefore, one would look at players such as Rodog (Senior IM in ICCF) and Cairo (several norms towards IM and SIM in ICCF) and conclude that a ICCF GM with a 2600 ICCF rating would PROBABLY eventually earn a similar over-2600 rating on GK given that Rodog is over 2500 in both systems and Cairo over 2500 in both systems. But nothing is certain, given that a player would need to adjust to the differences between GK time controls, vacation rules, etc., and those used in ICCF play.
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Posted by judge_hogan
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5/02/2008
16:56:58

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fmgaijin...

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That answer is so well thought out and planned. You thought of every angle. You answer questions like you play chess.

Thank you, that was very informative.
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Posted by chessnovice
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5/02/2008
17:24:45

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I agree

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That's as close to a right answer as anyone is gonna get.
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