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| From | Message | Posted by houseofcook www6conf.org
6/16/2008 10:29:18 Play online chess | Subject: French Defence, What do you play as White.
Message: Hi there,
A question for players who play the French defence as their main opening.
What openings would you play as white ? I know this is dependant on the response by black. Is it a similar setup to the French, or totally unrelated?
What was your thinking in choosing these setups ?
| Posted by ionadowman www6conf.org
6/16/2008 13:38:35 Play online chess | My own favorite...
Message: ... for White is 3.Nc3, hoping for the Winawer (an opening I like as Black as well, which says something about this line): 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5. 3.Nc3 and if Black plays 3...Bb4 we have the Winawer line, leading to a good fighting game. Black can try instead the exchange on e4 (I have a consultation game going on Gameknot at the moment in which the opponents have played this). Or he can try 3...Nf6, an OK line, but one I dislike as Black.
Playing the French OTB almost exclusively for several years, I found four opponents out of five favoured the Tarrasch, 3.Nd2, keeping the c-pawn free to advance. Not particularly committal, it's not easy for Black to get a hold on the ensuing game. I favoured the Guimard (3...Nc6) with considerable success, but blocking Black's c-pawn isn't everyone's cup o' java.
Finally, there's the more committal Advance Variation: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 (3...c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 are often played. White can then continue with the "standard" 6.Be2, or try the more ambitious 6.Bd3, possibly heading for the violent Milner-Barry Gambit: 6...cxd4 7.cxd4 Bd7 8.0-0 Nxd4 9.Nxd4 Qxd4 10.Nc3 Qxe5 11.Re1 ... An example is the game kikoursus vs ionadowman played in 2005.
There may be other lines (I gather 1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 is sometimes played), but these are the main ones.
Cheers,
Ion
| Posted by kansaspatzer www6conf.org
6/16/2008 14:48:14 Play online chess |
Message: I think he's asking what openings French players play when they're White. But FWIW, I play 2.Qe2 when faced with the French. ——— Endgames, part 1: Rook against Bishop — A superb lesson from Magnus Carlsen in endgame technique. It's been a while since we looked at the endgame, so this week we begin a short series on this often neglected area with a terrific demonstration of endgame technique from the ever-improving chess world No 1 Magnus Carlsen. Although White has the advantage of rook against bishop, Black has an extra pawn and a solid position on the chess board. How did Carlsen make progress? RB I'm pretty sure the answer lies in g4. The question is whether to nudge the pawn forward immediately or whether some preparation is needed first, perhaps exchanging on d5 or advancing the king to e3. The only way is concrete calculation, so let's see what ...
Posted by chessisvanity www6conf.org
6/16/2008 22:34:55 Play online chess | pffft...
Message: Throw them off....I play the exchange.
Why would I sit there and let a guy play his favorite opening?
If i play 1.e4 and he plays 1...e6 I know he knows the French.
So i play 2.d4...d5
3.exd5!
Yes some say this might be drawish....but unless he is 2200 or better then i have the advantage.
The same goes with the caro-kann. The exchange variation!! ——— Dortmund Begins — The Sparkassen Chess-Meeting (an odd name, to be sure) began Thursday in Dortmund. Though the chess tournament is not at the level of Linares or Corus, it still attracts top players, notably Vladimir Kramnik, the former world chess champion from Russia. Kramnik has been associated with Dortmund, as the chess event is often referred to, for many years because he has won the tournament nine times, far more than any other. He first won it in 1995 and is the defending champion this year. The tournament is a double-round robin this year, meaning each competitor plays all the others twice, once with each color. In addition to Kramnik, the No. 4 chess player in the world, the field includes ...
Posted by houseofcook www6conf.org
6/16/2008 23:27:35 Play online chess | French Defence,what do you play as white.
Message: Thanks for the replies.
It was interesting to find out what French players would play against the French.
I appreciate the in depth reply from ionadowman, but I did mean what does a French player play as white, what would be your initial moves, would you start with 1.d4 or 1. e4 or something else ? ——— Zhao and Zatonskih Lead Chess Championships — Anna Zatonskih, the defending chess champion, took the lead of the U.S. Women’s Championship on Wednesday, while Parker Zhao, the ninth seed, solidified his grip on the U.S. Junior Championship. The two chess tournaments are being held concurrently at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis. Zatonskih had shared the lead for the last few rounds with Irina Krush, the top seed. But in Round 5 on Wednesday, Zatonskih beat Iryna Zenyuk, while Krush only drew against Camilla Baginskaite. Zatonskih now leads with 4.5 points, while Krush and Tatev Abrahamyan, who beat Abby Marshall on Wednesday, have 4 each. In the junior championship, Zhao, who ...
Posted by chessisvanity www6conf.org
6/16/2008 23:31:54 Play online chess | ...
Message: well duh...
A french player will have an advantage playing against the French so I imagine they play 1.e4 as white. ——— A Chess Odyssey — One single square can make a big difference in a chess game. It helped me to launch one of my longest combinations against Anatoly Karpov in Caracas 40 years ago. It was a memorable chess tournament for both of us. Karpov arrived in Venezuela as the reigning world junior champion. He played well enough in Caracas to become the world's youngest chess grandmaster at that time, at age 19, and his brilliant career began to take shape. In 1971 in Moscow, he clinched the first major tournament victory, sharing first place with the three-time Soviet champion Leonid Stein at the prestigious Alekhine Memorial tournament. In 1975 he was crowned the world chess champion. This year ...
Posted by ionadowman www6conf.org
6/17/2008 00:44:42 Play online chess | Sorry -
Message: - Misunderstood you to mean what would I play if faced with the French.
But you can infer that I was not afraid to face the French myself, so would open 1.e4 at least sometimes.
But my stock opening as White, for even longer than the French was when I was Black, was the English Opening: 1.c4. 1.e4 was more of a "change" opening, just for the sake of variety. Some "English" players tend to stick with "pure" English positions, but I was more than happy to transpose into King's Indian Defences (from White's perspective), Sicilians Reversed or (surprisingly frequently) Maroczy Binds. Quite a few French defence player like the King's Indian Attack as White, but I never had much luck with it...
Cheers,
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Posted by lighttotheright www6conf.org
6/18/2008 12:53:52 Play online chess |
Message: Ion,
You and I apparently like the same openings with the same variations! That's spooky. Maybe we know some things others don't.:-O
| Posted by ionadowman www6conf.org
6/18/2008 13:43:38 Play online chess | ...
Message: Ken -
I wonder what they can be?? :-/
Maybe we just like lines with a bit of fight in them?
(I have to admit, though, my record with the English on GK hasn't been all that wonderful...)
Cheers,
Ion
| Posted by premium_steve www6conf.org
7/07/2008 12:25:10 Play online chess |
Message: i'm a french player now (i used to play the alekhine and scandinavian), and i most often prefer 1.e4.
it's true that as black i like to play fairly solidly with 1.e6 because i have found that most lines give me a position i am comfortable with - without much risk of being a lot worse out of the opening.
as white i feel i can take more liberties in an open style game and look for some kind of attack. (that being said, i still fear open sicilians as white!)
sometimes i'll give 1.d4 or 1.f4 a try, or maybe 1.g3.
| Posted by markb56 www6conf.org
7/13/2008 15:44:40 Play online chess | Maginot Line / Hitler Gambit
Message: If I were playing white against the French I would try to try to get black to play the Maginot Line after which it's an easy matter to maneuver your pieces around the flank. However, white must be careful and avoid the now refuted Hitler Gambit, because if white gets too bold he will find himself fighting on two different fronts.
| Posted by kansaspatzer www6conf.org
7/13/2008 17:19:33 Play online chess |
Message: I just recently switched to the French and I normally play e4, although there are certain opponents I'll play d4 against. I must admit I'm not all that booked up against the Sicilian but playing lots of Gameknot games using the opening DB helps when you get OTB, IMO.
| Posted by wulebgr www6conf.org
7/25/2008 12:03:17 Play online chess | As I French player,
Message: I understand the futility of 1.e4. I play 1.g3, 1.d4, 1.c4, and 1.Nf3, reserving 1.e4 for weaker opponents and blitz.
| Posted by kansaspatzer www6conf.org
7/26/2008 22:27:47 Play online chess |
Message: So what is the Hitler gambit? The only Google hit for it is this page...
| Posted by jstevens1 www6conf.org
7/26/2008 23:49:54 Play online chess | Expert Draw!
Message: Hi everyone! Just to let you know that there is a game on the Public Annotations where I had the black pieces and played against The Tarrasch. The game is called Expert Draw because at the time my opponent was 832 points north of my rating. Despite a 2 pawn deficit I managed to draw it. This was a big result because it is still the only time I have managed to draw against an Expert. Ionadowman has already commented on the game but if any of you have anything to add please feel free to do so.
Hope you have all enjoyed your weekend.
Cheers and bye for now.
Joanne
| Posted by savage4731 www6conf.org
7/29/2008 01:22:30 Play online chess | Kansaspatzer
Message: That's because the correct way for black to play is just to resign as soon as possible.
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