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ecob16 7 ( +1 | -1 )
Endgame Position White : Kh3 Rb6 Bb5 a6 h2 f3
Black : Kf7 Rd2 Bc2 h5 g5 f4

can white take the win here? it's whites move.
muppyman 17 ( +1 | -1 )
I wonder what happens after Bd7? If RxB, Rb7 would seem to be decisive. But I am tired as I write this and could be hallucinating. Is this a problem or a position from actual play?
mbeep 49 ( +1 | -1 )
Yes... White can obviously win from here since the material is enough for mating, but I guess that wasn't what you wanted to know. So what you ask for is if white can win with best possible play from black isn't it??? Sorry if I was marking words...

The answer to the question you really want to know is that with my little knowledge in the game of chess that it's possible, but I wont tell how it's done since I guess that it's a game that you're still playing isn't it?!?

mbeep 100 ( +1 | -1 )
Perhaps a solution... Since I can't see that you have an active game with this position I will tell you what I see with my little limited knowledge of chess. The first you have to do is to stop the mate threat black has after Bf5+,g4(forced),hxg4# or Bxg4. After analyzing the position I think 1.Bc4+ looks strong for a start. If the answer will be 1...Ke7 Then 2.Rb7+. From here I can't see a clear way to play though.

Muppymans suggestion seems to be a trap if you look it up in a program though cause after 1.Bd7 1...Rxd7 2.Rb7 just as the suggestion says black can play 2...Bf5+ (3.g4 will only lose one more pawn for white after 3...hxg4) So all left for white would be 3.Kg2 followed up by the fork (doublethreat) 3... Be4+ and white has lost his rook for a bishop and the game is lost for white.

After looking up with a program I'm a little unsure if white can actually win the game. With best play from a chess program it seem to be possible though even it will be a hard fought win.

muppyman 21 ( +1 | -1 )
magnus I appreciate your comments but I am at a loss to understand how white can play 3.g4 when white does not have a g pawn according to the information given by ecob. white's pawns are on a6, h4, f3. Am I reading that wrong???
muppyman 1 ( +1 | -1 )
sorry I meant a6, h2 and f3
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ecob16 23 ( +1 | -1 )
Thanks for all your help, here was my best analysis-

51.Bc4+ Ke7 52.Rb5(to prevent Bf5#) Ba4 53.Rb7+ and from here you can advance the pawn and force the swap off.

what really happened was my friend was short on time, so he advanced the pawn and got mated with Bf5.